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‘A woman is not a baby-making machine’: a brief history of South Korea’s 4B movement – and why it’s making waves in America

<div class="theconversation-article-body"> <p><em><a href="https://theconversation.com/profiles/ming-gao-1496188">Ming Gao</a>, <a href="https://theconversation.com/institutions/australian-catholic-university-747">Australian Catholic University</a></em></p> <p>In South Korea, a growing number of young women are rejecting societal expectations of marriage, motherhood and heterosexual relationships, known as the “4B Movement” or the “4 Nos”.</p> <p>The “B” is a homophone for the Korean word <em>bi</em> (비/非), meaning “no”, representing the movement’s four principles: <em>bihon</em> (no marriage), <em>bichulsan</em> (no childbirth), <em>biyeonae</em> (no dating) and <em>bisekseu</em> (no sex).</p> <p>By refusing to marry, have children, engage in romance, or participate in sexual relationships with men, 4B feminists seek to redefine their lives outside the confines of traditional gender roles.</p> <p>In the wake of the reelection of Donald Trump, there has been <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-10/donald-trump-win-4b-movement-male-supremacists-make-threats/104575732">increased interest</a> in the 4B movement from women in the United States.</p> <p>But what is the 4B Movement, where did it come from, and how is it reshaping the feminist landscape in South Korea and beyond?</p> <h2>Challenges facing young women</h2> <p>The 4B Movement reflects <a href="https://www.khan.co.kr/national/national-general/article/202004140938001">a broader dissatisfaction</a> among young South Korean women who face instability of housing, digital sexual violence, economic disparities and cultural pressures.</p> <p>It emerged in the mid- to late-2010s, following a surge of interest in feminism in South Korea, and spread primarily through women’s online communities.</p> <p>The roots of the 4B Movement lie in South Korea’s rapid economic transformation and the subsequent challenges it posed for younger generations of the 2000s.</p> <p>For young women, economic insecurity is compounded by systemic gender inequality. South Korea <a href="https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korea-s-gender-pay-gap-worst-in-oecd">consistently ranks</a> worst in the OECD for the gender wage gap, and social mobility remains limited.</p> <p>Against this backdrop, traditional life paths – marriage, childbearing and homemaking – have become less appealing.</p> <p>Living an alternative life without men emerged as a radical strategy for young digital feminists to challenge the rigid patriarchy in South Korea.</p> <p>The <a href="https://www.khan.co.kr/national/national-general/article/202405172212001">senseless killing</a> in 2016 of a woman in a train station toilet by a man in Seoul shocked the nation and fuelled the movement. Online platforms became spaces where women could share their frustrations, critique patriarchal norms and organise protests.</p> <p>During this period communities like radical feminist online groups gained traction. Among these was the <em><a href="https://www.bbc.com/korean/news-44329328">Tal-Corset</a></em> (escape the corset) movement, which encouraged women to reject societal beauty standards by foregoing makeup, cosmetic surgery and restrictive clothing.</p> <p>The 4B Movement built on this momentum, targeting not only beauty standards but the very institutions that sustain patriarchy.</p> <p>It collectively challenges the notion that women’s value lies in their ability to support men and sustain the family unit.</p> <h2>‘A woman is not a baby-making machine’</h2> <p>The birth rate in South Korea ranks among the <a href="https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/birth-rate-by-country">lowest in the world</a>. The government has long viewed this as a national crisis. Policies such as subsidised housing for newlyweds and tax incentives for families have sought to encourage marriage and childbearing.</p> <p>In 2016, the government launched a national <a href="https://www.womennews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=248514">pink birth map</a> visualising the number of women of reproductive age in each district. It sparked outrage. Women criticised it as reducing them to reproductive tools, proclaiming, “<a href="https://www.nocutnews.co.kr/news/4713565">my womb is not national property</a>” and “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsEWD1bi3E">a woman is not a baby-making machine</a>”.</p> <p>For many 4B feminists, these policies represent a stark example of how the state prioritises population growth over women’s autonomy. In response, the movement frames its rejection of marriage and motherhood as an act of political resistance.</p> <p>As one <a href="https://www.womennews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=111598">protest slogan</a> declared: “End population policies! Stop blaming women”.</p> <h2>Living on their own terms</h2> <p>Despite its growing influence, the 4B Movement faces significant challenges.</p> <p>The radical principles have sparked backlash, with critics labelling participants as selfish or anti-social. Swearing off men as a form of protest against patriarchal structures and traditional marital norms is sometimes (mis)interpreted as implicitly favouring <a href="https://brunch.co.kr/brunchbook/radsview2">lesbianism</a>, given its stance against heterosexual relationships.</p> <p>The movement has also attracted negative political attention. <a href="https://www.khan.co.kr/national/national-general/article/202004140938001">Lee Seung-cheon</a>, a 58-year-old Democratic Party candidate, pledged to introduce “measures to reject the 4B Movement” as part of his policy campaign in 2020.</p> <p>Yet 4B feminists remain steadfast in their vision of a future where women can live on their own terms. Their rejection of traditional life paths is not a retreat into isolation but an attempt to create new ways of being free from patriarchal constraints.</p> <p>As one participant noted, rejecting marriage allows women to envision futures beyond societal deadlines like “<a href="https://brunch.co.kr/@404homealone/34">a woman’s age has an expiration date</a>”.</p> <h2>An international movement</h2> <p>The 4B Movement’s radical critique of patriarchy has resonated internationally.</p> <p>4B Movement ideas are starting to strike a chord in the US. The movement’s core principles align with broader feminist critiques of patriarchy and capitalism, which have intensified in response to political developments such as Trump’s rhetoric and debates over reproductive rights.</p> <p>In the US, Trump’s presidency (and now his return) has been a flashpoint for feminist activism. Policies restricting access to abortion, coupled with an increase in conservative rhetoric around women’s rights, have galvanised movements that resist patriarchal structures.</p> <p>For American feminists, the 4B Movement offers a framework for resistance that goes beyond economic precarity. It provides a roadmap for rejecting political conflicts, focusing on reclaiming agency by prioritising autonomy over their own bodies and rights.</p> <p>6B4T is inspired by the 4B Movement and has gained particular attention <a href="https://weibo.com/1263977197/KaFZGjoG4">in China</a>. This version incorporates additional principles, including rejecting consumerism and fostering mutual aid among unmarried women.</p> <p>The spread of 4B ideas across Asia and beyond highlights the universality of feminist struggles. As the movement continues to evolve, its impact extends beyond South Korea, sparking conversations about gender, autonomy and the future of feminism.</p> <p>Whether embraced or contested, the 4B Movement forces society to confront uncomfortable truths about the cost of sustaining patriarchy – and perhaps the possibilities of living without it.</p> <hr /> <p><em>Correction: 6B4T is inspired by the 4B movement and gained attention in China; it did not originate in China.</em><!-- Below is The Conversation's page counter tag. Please DO NOT REMOVE. --><img style="border: none !important; box-shadow: none !important; margin: 0 !important; max-height: 1px !important; max-width: 1px !important; min-height: 1px !important; min-width: 1px !important; opacity: 0 !important; outline: none !important; padding: 0 !important;" src="https://counter.theconversation.com/content/243355/count.gif?distributor=republish-lightbox-basic" alt="The Conversation" width="1" height="1" /><!-- End of code. 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Kerri-Anne Kennerley's shocking assault allegation

<p>Kerri-Anne Kennerley has opened up about a shocking incident of sexual assault involving a former network boss. </p> <p>The former TV presenter shared the story with her campmates on <em>I'm a Celebrity... Get Me out of Here</em>, as she revealed that the unnamed male had “unzipped” her dress during a staff gathering.</p> <p>“It was a Christmas party for our show, and as I was standing there, the back of my dress, the zip, was being unzipped,” she said in a piece to camera. </p> <p>“So as I swung around to basically say stop it and deck said person, I realised it was the station owner. And I did say, ‘Zip it up or I will deck you.’”</p> <p>The 66-year-old did not specify when the incident occurred, and did not name the person involved. </p> <p>Earlier in the episode, Kennerley had been sharing her thoughts on the rife misogyny within the media industry, as she told former host of <em>The Project</em> Peter Helliar she thought it was a "boys club".</p> <p>“Chauvinism, harassment, hideous behaviour,” she said, describing some of the men she’d encountered throughout her career. </p> <p>“Executives and producers hitting on the younger girls in there. You know, somebody hits on you and you just draw the line in the sand and everybody gets back to work, that was just the way it was.”</p> <p>Kennerley added that, in her experience in media, female employees had often been left to pick up the slack for male co-workers. </p> <p>“The women were all researchers, producers and the guys would sort of tick off yes, yes and then go to lunch for four hours,” she said.</p> <p>“And the show would all get together because most of the women did all of the work. At the end of the day, you just want to make good TV. </p> <p>“It has always been just about get a job, hang on to it as long as you can, do as well as you can, and when it is over, you get another one. You just keep doing it, keep turning up.”</p> <p>Kerri-Anne's extensive media career began in 1981 as she became the host of <em>Good Morning Australia</em>, and she stayed on the air until <em>Kerri-Anne</em>'s final episode aired in 2011. </p> <p>She then became a regular co-host on Ten’s <em>Studio 10</em> for two years, but left the show in 2020.</p> <p><em>Image credits: I'm a Celebrity... Get Me out of Here</em></p>

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The Qatar World Cup is beaming misogyny around the world

<p>One of the fundamental questions relating to the 2022 World Cup being hosted by Qatar is what message this gives to women and girls around the world. Fifa <a href="https://www.fifa.com/social-impact/human-rights#:%7E:text=%E2%80%9CFIFA%20is%20committed%20to%20respecting%20all%20internationally%20recognised,UN%20Guiding%20Principles%20on%20Business%20and%20Human%20Rights" target="_blank" rel="noopener">purports to uphold human rights</a>. Its decision, in 2010, to <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/dec/02/qatar-win-2022-world-cup-bid" target="_blank" rel="noopener">award</a> the hosting duties for the 2022 tournament to Qatar was not, however, without controversy.</p> <p>In the 12 years since, these issues have only intensified. The <a href="https://theconversation.com/the-world-cup-puts-the-spotlight-on-qatar-but-also-brings-attention-to-its-human-rights-record-and-politics-4-things-to-know-194970" target="_blank" rel="noopener">treatment of migrant workers</a> throughout the run-up to the event has garnered continued attention, as has the way <a href="https://theconversation.com/world-cup-2022-fifas-clampdown-on-rainbow-armbands-conflicts-with-its-own-guidance-on-human-rights-194485" target="_blank" rel="noopener">LGBTQ+ rights</a> <a href="https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/2015/05/27/fifa-bribery-corruption-qatar-world-cup-worst-ever/28014953/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">and women’s rights</a> are contravened by local law.</p> <p><a href="https://theconversation.com/stopping-violence-against-women-starts-with-learning-what-misogyny-really-is-175411" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Misogyny</a>, a sexist contempt and hatred of women, aims to keep women in a lower position than men within a patriarchal society. With discrimination against women enshrined in Qatari law – which, among other things does not criminalise domestic violence or sexual assault – misogyny is being beamed through televisions internationally, via the means of the 2022 men’s football World Cup.</p> <h2>Women in Qatar</h2> <p><a href="https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/qatar" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Qatari law</a> undergirds a profoundly patriarchal system. Sex outside of marriage is banned and Qatari women can only marry with the permission of a male guardian.</p> <p>This controversial system of male guardianship also shapes women’s ability to <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/mar/29/were-treated-as-children-qatari-women-tell-rights-group" target="_blank" rel="noopener">study, drive and travel</a>. Men have the unquestioned right to divorce, yet the grounds on which a woman can apply for divorce is limited. Wives are expected to obey husbands and their priority is seen to be home making.</p> <p>Women <a href="https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/03/29/everything-i-have-do-tied-man/women-and-qatars-male-guardianship-rules" target="_blank" rel="noopener">cannot pass</a> nationality on to their children, as men can, nor can they be their children’s primary carer in case of divorce or the death of their husband. Female beneficiaries only get half of any inheritance their brothers receive.</p> <p>Women are asked to provide proof of marriage to receive sexual health and antenatal care. And they have to abide by a strict <a href="https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/09649429610109271/full/html?casa_token=naTUyIdS9wgAAAAA:wqUgZBFDLUqiTioqcQJYMkymKOKVfNcmEUzYWCkZr_kVmJEm-pJsYcd5179NhHKCSX4sDIu6Aklz1m6_l92YYnXaAmRdQE9zn_wOW1ldYnuJu4KF_o0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">dress code</a>.</p> <p>Crucially, domestic violence and rape is not criminalised. While family law forbids moral or physical assault by husbands against wives, reporting domestic abuse or sexual violence is frowned upon as it is seen to bring <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gender-Violence-Praeger-Security-International/dp/0313359954/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1174279316512322&amp;hvadid=73392656152523&amp;hvbmt=be&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocphy=4900&amp;hvnetw=o&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvtargid=kwd-73392591771253%3Aloc-188&amp;hydadcr=10841_1825545&amp;keywords=gender+and+violence+in+the+middle+east&amp;qid=1669211683&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">shame upon the family</a>.</p> <p>Both the lack of prosecution for domestic violence and the victim blaming that surrounds sexual assault point towards possible risks for any women attending the World Cup. Research <a href="https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2012.00606.x" target="_blank" rel="noopener">shows</a> that women face a heightened risk of <a href="https://theathletic.com/3583817/2022/09/22/world-cup-sexual-violence/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">sexual assault</a> at any major sports tournament. It also shows, in the UK, the increase in domestic violence <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0022427813494843" target="_blank" rel="noopener">around World Cup matches</a> and other <a href="https://www.policeprofessional.com/news/lessons-learned-from-the-domestic-violence-enforcement-campaigns-2006/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">big sporting tournaments</a>.</p> <h2>Women at the World Cup</h2> <p>Reports <a href="https://metro.co.uk/2022/11/18/fifa-theres-not-a-woman-i-know-that-is-going-to-the-world-cup-in-qatar-17769410/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">have highlighted</a> that this heightened risk has already resulted in many women not wanting to travel to Qatar for the World Cup. This, in itself, is discriminatory.</p> <p>Those who do head for Doha <a href="https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/qatar/local-laws-and-customs" target="_blank" rel="noopener">are advised</a> to follow a strict dress code. Fifa’s <a href="https://news.abplive.com/news/fifa-world-cup-wearing-shorts-revealing-clothes-in-qatar-may-land-you-in-jail-1563943" target="_blank" rel="noopener">position</a> on this is unclear. It states that people attending matches can wear what they want but also that they <a href="https://theislamicinformation.com/news/qatar-jail-women-wearing-inappropriate-clothing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">must respect local laws</a>. When in public, women in Qatar are expected to <a href="https://core.ac.uk/reader/17244280" target="_blank" rel="noopener">cover up</a>. They must forgo tight clothing and not show their cleavage, knees or shoulders, and contravening these rules can result in prison or fines.</p> <p><a href="https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/qatar/local-laws-and-customs" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Official advice</a> for travellers published by the UK government also covers strict laws against relationships outside of marriage. There are multiple cases of visitors being punished for being seen to be in contravention of these laws. In June 2021, a <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/world-cup-worker-threatened-100-lashes-after-sexual-assault-qatar-1680871" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mexican world cup official</a> reported that she was sexually assaulted. As a result of this, she was accused of extramarital sex, which is against Qatari laws, rather than being seen as a victim of sexual violence. This saw her threatened with imprisonment and 100 lashes.</p> <p>And in 2020, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/21/australian-women-sue-qatar-airways-over-forced-examinations-at-doha-airport" target="_blank" rel="noopener">13 Australian</a> women were forcibly removed, at gunpoint, from grounded Qatar Airways planes in Doha. They were then forced to undergo internal examinations, without their consent, as officials sought to find the mother of a newborn baby who had been found in the airport.</p> <p>This subordination of women is in direct conflict with <a href="https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/qatar/report-qatar/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">human rights laws</a>. The <a href="https://www.unfpa.org/resources/human-rights-women" target="_blank" rel="noopener">United Nations</a> and the <a href="https://www.echr.coe.int/documents/convention_eng.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">European Convention on Human Rights </a> categorically state that any compromise of women’s rights contravenes international human rights laws.</p> <p>Significant progress has been made in terms of women’s rights worldwide in the <a href="https://www.who.int/news/item/08-03-2020-women-s-health-and-rights-25-years-of-progress" target="_blank" rel="noopener">last 25 years</a>, not least in the sphere of football itself. <a href="https://theconversation.com/why-football-needs-a-gender-revolution-182394" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Women’s football</a> has gathered enormous traction of late, particularly with the success of the England women’s team winning the European cup.</p> <p>By holding the men’s World Cup in Qatar, and thereby not sanctioning the lack of progress the country has made in terms of women’s rights, the impression given is that these rights are discretionary. Preventing discrimination and violence against women and girls, however, is never optional. This is not a cultural issue. It is a serious breach of human rights.</p> <p><strong>This article originally appeared on <a href="https://theconversation.com/the-qatar-world-cup-is-beaming-misogyny-around-the-world-195242" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Conversation</a>.</strong></p> <p><em>Image: Getty</em></p>

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Julia Gillard reflects on her famous misogyny speech 10 years on

<p>On October 9th 2012, former Prime Minister Julia Gillard confronted then Liberal leader Tony Abbott on sexism in the government after two years of unrelenting misogyny. </p> <p>Standing before her opposition in the House of Representatives, Gillard's misogyny speech made waves around the world, and became a battle cry for women everywhere to not accept sexism at the hands of powerful men in the workplace. </p> <p>On that day 10 years ago, she told Abbott in front of parliament, “I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by this man, I will not." </p> <p>“If he wants to know what misogyny looks like in modern Australia he doesn’t need a motion in the House of Representatives, he needs a mirror."</p> <p>“The leader of the opposition should think seriously about the role of women in public life and in Australian society because we are entitled to a better standard than this.”</p> <p>Ms Gillard has now reflected on her famous speech after a decade, telling Lisa Wilkinson on <em>The Project </em>that the speech "almost never happened". </p> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"> <p dir="ltr" lang="en">It's been 10 years since then-Prime Minister Julia Gillard's misogyny-blasting speech made waves around the world. <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaGillard?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JuliaGillard</a> joins us to tell us what's changed since then and what more needs to be done in politics. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheProjectTV?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheProjectTV</a> <a href="https://t.co/7LomRPxY1u">pic.twitter.com/7LomRPxY1u</a></p> <p>— The Project (@theprojecttv) <a href="https://twitter.com/theprojecttv/status/1579021560798908416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2022</a></p></blockquote> <p>She came to this revelation while writing her book, titled <em>Not Now, Not Ever</em>, in which she discusses the book and what need to be done to end misogyny. </p> <p>“I always thought that I’d remembered every moment of that day because it was obviously a big one and I’d been asked about it so many times."</p> <p>“But when I was putting the <em>Not Now, Not Ever</em> book together I consulted my then chief of staff Ben Hubbard who reminded me that when Tony Abbott leapt to his feet to speak to the motion I wandered over to the adviser’s box and said to Ben and the other advisers there, ‘I’m going to take the reply’ and they said, ‘Oh really are you going to do that?’ </p> <p>“Because normally I kind of held myself above these day to day political tactics and I sort of thought about it, considered not doing it and then decided I would because I was sick of all the ... I will use the word nonsense. All the nonsense.”</p> <p>“Use the real word,” one of the show’s hosts interjected.</p> <p>“I will get beeped. I don’t want to get beeped on TV,” Ms Gillard joked.</p> <p>The “nonsense”, as she put it, included such comments as those made about her by radio broadcaster Alan Jones that “her father died of shame” and she “should be put in a chaff bag and thrown into sea”.</p> <p>In the years since her misogyny speech, Gillard believes Australia is finally calling out sexism and misogyny, and not tolerating inequality between men and women anymore. </p> <p>“I think what we are doing better is naming and shaming when we see sexism and misogyny,” she said.</p> <p>“I think it’s impossible to imagine that a woman in parliament could be called the things I was without there being an uproar and political consequences.</p> <p>“I think women’s voices, women’s issues are much more shaping of federal politics.” </p> <p><em>Image credits: Getty Images</em></p>

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Why Kyle and Jackie O hung up on these absolute creeps

<p dir="ltr">Those who tuned into the<em> Kyle and Jackie O Show </em>on Friday morning found themselves listening to a fiery exchange between Jackie ‘O’ Henderson and two guests that ended with a cheering studio as Kyle Sandilands hung up on them on-air.</p> <p dir="ltr">The radio duo were chatting with guests Myron Gaines and Walter Weekes, the US-based men behind the <em>Fresh &amp; Fit</em> podcast, when Gaines and Weekes claimed men and women aren’t equal.</p> <p dir="ltr">Henderson called the pair “misogynistic and egotistical” when they said women in relationships shouldn’t have Instagram accounts, but that it was okay for men to have them.</p> <p dir="ltr">Weekes and Gaines justified their opinions by claiming that women thrive on attention and receive more attention from men when they post on the platform. </p> <p><span id="docs-internal-guid-9a366ec2-7fff-1533-87b4-ffe374c57805"></span></p> <p dir="ltr">To drive their point home, the pair drew a parallel between a woman’s Instagram account and owning a car, asking Henderson to take part in their analogy by asking what her dream car was.</p> <blockquote class="instagram-media" style="background: #FFF; 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font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px; margin-bottom: 0; margin-top: 8px; overflow: hidden; padding: 8px 0 7px; text-align: center; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;"><a style="color: #c9c8cd; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 17px; text-decoration: none;" href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc6f10TrNsP/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading" target="_blank" rel="noopener">A post shared by Kyle and Jackie O (@kyleandjackieo)</a></p> </div> </blockquote> <p dir="ltr">After she hesitantly responded with, “A range rover”, they asked her to imagine buying a brand new one from a dealership.</p> <p dir="ltr">“You shake hands with the car dealer, sign the paperwork … drive it off the lot … take it back to your house,” they continued, before asking how she would feel if the dealer came back a few weeks later asking to put the ‘For Sale’ sign back on and let a few people test-drive it.</p> <p dir="ltr">Telling them she understood the analogy, Henderson hit back with: “I own that car, I don’t own my partner in a relationship though.”</p> <p dir="ltr">“Answer the question. How would that make you feel?” they pressed.</p> <p dir="ltr">“Obviously I wouldn’t be okay with it,” she replied.</p> <p dir="ltr">Running with her answer, the podcasters said that is “exactly how men feel” when women post photos on Instagram to “advertise” themselves to other men.</p> <p dir="ltr">“You don’t own us in a relationship so we can post what we want,” Henderson shot back.</p> <p dir="ltr">“If you have an insecurity with that, then that’s on you.”</p> <p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-a17a2fb9-7fff-3553-dd8d-185cbd3440b6"></span></p> <p dir="ltr">“Men don’t want to be with women who other men have been with. Or they don’t want a girl that is high mileage,” the men said.</p> <blockquote class="instagram-media" style="background: #FFF; border: 0; border-radius: 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width: 540px; min-width: 326px; padding: 0; width: calc(100% - 2px);" data-instgrm-captioned="" data-instgrm-permalink="https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cc6gy2Br65X/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading" data-instgrm-version="14"> <div style="padding: 16px;"> <div style="display: flex; flex-direction: row; align-items: center;"> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 40px; margin-right: 14px; width: 40px;"> </div> <div style="display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center;"> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 100px;"> </div> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 60px;"> </div> </div> </div> <div style="padding: 19% 0;"> </div> <div style="display: block; height: 50px; margin: 0 auto 12px; width: 50px;"> </div> <div style="padding-top: 8px;"> <div style="color: #3897f0; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 550; line-height: 18px;">View this post on Instagram</div> </div> <div style="padding: 12.5% 0;"> </div> <div style="display: flex; flex-direction: row; margin-bottom: 14px; align-items: center;"> <div> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(0px) translateY(7px);"> </div> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; height: 12.5px; transform: rotate(-45deg) translateX(3px) translateY(1px); width: 12.5px; flex-grow: 0; margin-right: 14px; margin-left: 2px;"> </div> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(9px) translateY(-18px);"> </div> </div> <div style="margin-left: 8px;"> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 20px; width: 20px;"> </div> <div style="width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 2px solid transparent; border-left: 6px solid #f4f4f4; border-bottom: 2px solid transparent; transform: translateX(16px) translateY(-4px) rotate(30deg);"> </div> </div> <div style="margin-left: auto;"> <div style="width: 0px; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-right: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(16px);"> </div> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; flex-grow: 0; height: 12px; width: 16px; transform: translateY(-4px);"> </div> <div style="width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-left: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(-4px) translateX(8px);"> </div> </div> </div> <div style="display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center; margin-bottom: 24px;"> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 224px;"> </div> <div style="background-color: #f4f4f4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 144px;"> </div> </div> <p style="color: #c9c8cd; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px; margin-bottom: 0; margin-top: 8px; overflow: hidden; padding: 8px 0 7px; text-align: center; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;"><a style="color: #c9c8cd; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 17px; text-decoration: none;" href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cc6gy2Br65X/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading" target="_blank" rel="noopener">A post shared by Kyle and Jackie O (@kyleandjackieo)</a></p> </div> </blockquote> <p dir="ltr">The debate quickly intensified, with Kyle stepping in, telling Gaines and Weekes to “grow up” when they said men could sleep with other women while in a closed relationship.</p> <p dir="ltr">“A man is capable of having sex with other women while still loving their girl the same, so it’s not that big a deal, but if your woman is out here fielding options that’s an option,” they said.</p> <p dir="ltr">Henderson shared her shock with the pair, questioning whether they genuinely believed women should be happy while their partners saw other people, to which Weekes and Gaines said, “exactly, closed on your end and open on my end”.</p> <p dir="ltr">Sandilands deemed their argument “ridiculous” before yelling, “See ya fellas” and hanging up.</p> <p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2be98216-7fff-49d7-a933-ed6867700666"></span></p> <p dir="ltr"><em>Image: @kyleandjackieo (Instagram)</em></p>

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Podcast hosts slammed for disgusting remarks about women's postpartum bodies

<p><em>Image: Getty </em></p> <p>The male hosts of a concerning new podcast have received major backlash over comments made claiming they’d leave their future wife if she didn’t lose weight after giving birth.</p> <p>Brothers Anthony Casasanta and Nick Casasanta launched “The No Filter Pod” earlier this month with friend Jason Girratano – describing it as “the most blunt podcast in the world”.</p> <p>While their show is deliberately “controversial”, many are condemning the show over comments made by Anthony about a potential future wife’s body after she gives birth to his child.</p> <p>The comments have been quickly gone viral, with women branding them “disgusting”, “horrendous” and “God awful”.</p> <p>In a statement issued to news.com.au, “The No Filter Pod” said the comments had been taken “out of context” but doubled down on the controversial remarks.</p> <p>“We just don’t want our wives to be obese. We feel as if society promotes obesity which is a very unhealthy and uncomfortable way of living.</p> <p>“We promote healthy lifestyles here at NoFilterPod. It’s also not only about weight gain after childbirth, it’s also about mental health as well as the physical health. We feel like it’s very important to hold spouses both men and women to a high standard.”</p> <p>The backlash was sparked by the men themselves, who all play NFL in the US, after they shared the clip on TikTok, asking: “Is this too much?”</p> <p>“If my wife lets herself go after I have kids with her, I’m going to tell her once,” Anthony tells Nick and Jason.</p> <p>“‘If you don’t get your sh*t together, because I still want to be sexually attracted to my wife, my spouse, but if you can’t do that, I’m out’.”</p> <p>The guys said they were prepared a negative reaction but received an avalanche of a response, predominantly condemning the view and labelling it “misogynistic”.</p> <p>“We really feel as the video was taken out of context,” the trio said in a statement.</p> <p>“We will not be apologising.”</p> <p>Women have fought back in droves, with many creating videos in response to the clip, while others flooded the guys social media feeds with their thoughts forcing the podcast hosts to turn off comments.</p> <p>“Where is the respect, the love, the admiration for his partner. I actually feel sorry for him. Clearly he has no idea what love is,” one woman said.</p> <p>As one simply stated: “I can’t even comment on this cus the outrage is just UNREAL.”</p> <p>Comments on the guys’ personal Instagram accounts, which haven’t yet been disabled, displayed a similar response.</p> <p>“You’ve made a fool of yourself and you’ve made an already foolish world more worrisome,” one raged.</p> <p>“Why are you turning off your comments? yallll are a joke and can’t take the heat,” another lamented.</p> <p>Anthony, Nick and Jason have claimed they are receiving death threats over the outcry but have continued to post clips on TikTok on topics surrounding cheating, “fitness chicks” and female vs male value.</p> <p>According to the boys, girls who workout are “superior to all women”, calling them “top of the line”.</p> <p>They also reckon “girls cheat more than guys” and women seek “financial security from their husbands” citing that all they ask for in return is that “you don’t sleep around with like 50 other dudes”.</p> <p>These statements have obviously not gone down well, with words such as “repulsive”, “vile” and “red flag” being used to describe them in the comments.</p>

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Real estate agent forced to apologise for offensive, sexist post

<p>A blog post on an Australian real estate website targeting single women buying properties has gone viral for all the wrong reasons.</p> <p>The article titled "Buying as a single lady" was published on Bathurst Real Estate's website and was quickly removed after backlash on social media claimed the post was "sexist" and "misogynistic".</p> <p>The piece started off on a positive note, empowering women who are planning on purchasing a property: “You’re a single lady and you’re content not (to) have a ring on your finger”. But it then took a sharp turn that angered many people online.</p> <p>“You may prefer the emotional and financial back-up of a spouse,” the post reads.</p> <p>The article continues to suggest single women can "go wild when buying" as they are "responsible only for themselves".</p> <p>It also says women “are well known for reasoning with their hearts, not their heads - and many of us love to nest.”</p> <p>Women are then issued a warning, saying property buying can quickly go south “especially if there is no man beside you to offer logic to the situation”.</p> <p>The real estate agency swiftly removed the post from their website and apologised on Facebook.</p> <p>“This is so misogynistic it’s almost comical,” one woman who reposted the article on Facebook wrote.</p> <p>“Thanks so much for this super helpful blog post Bathurst Real Estate! I can’t wait for your next post on ‘Buying as a Single man’, Oh wait...</p> <p>“Next time I go to purchase anything I’ll be sure to bring a man with me to both pay for it and also offer logic, because as you said, women are well known for not using their head and I guess none of us have any money of our own!” the bemused woman continued.</p> <p>“This is the most offensive piece of s**t I have ever read,” another person wrote.</p> <p>“Holy s**t it had never occurred to me that buying a property would represent a big proportion of my hard work and savings! I thought it would be like buying a new eyebrow pencil or baking a cake!” another woman wrote sarcastically.</p> <p>“Does this mean that me and my partner aren’t able to buy a house because we are both women and don’t know how to use our heads?” a user asked.</p> <p>Men also seemed to be equally offended by the article.</p> <p>“I think they need a new password… surely this has got to be a hack from a sacked staff member,” one man suggested.</p> <p>Bathurst Real Estate claimed the post was written by a female from a content marketing agency who was outsourced to create content.</p> <p>The real estate agent apologised for any offence that was caused, claiming the article had gone live without their knowledge and they removed it as soon as they were aware of it.</p>

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“Pathetic”: Julie Bishop slams “gender deafness” and misogyny in Australian politics

<p>Julie Bishop has condemned a sexist attack against former prime minister Julia Gillard, calling it “pathetic” and “grotesque in brutality”.</p> <p>Speaking to Andrew Denton on<span> </span><em>Interview</em>, Bishop said the sexism and misogyny that she witnessed during her 20-year political career would not cease until more women enter parliament.</p> <p>The former deputy Liberal leader recalled a 2013 Liberal National fundraiser in Queensland where a menu included a “Julia Gillard Kentucky Fried Quail” dish, which was described as having “small breasts, huge thighs and a big red box”.</p> <p>The event sparked controversy and was eventually condemned by then-party leader Tony Abbott.</p> <p>Bishop said the incident was “grotesque in its brutality”.</p> <p>The former WA representative said, “We have to remember that in recent times, parliament was all male. And so you had a whole bunch of men in Canberra and they set the rules, they set the customs, the precedence and the environment.</p> <p>“There was very much that culture around politics ... but that kind of behaviour’s just pathetic.”</p> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"> <p dir="ltr">"The more women that are in politics, the more they would say that behaviour is unacceptable." - <a href="https://twitter.com/HonJulieBishop?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@honjuliebishop</a> on Julia Gillard's treatment from male politicians. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InterviewAU?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#InterviewAU</a> <a href="https://t.co/LZYoJp6lk5">pic.twitter.com/LZYoJp6lk5</a></p> — Andrew Denton's "Interview" (@InterviewAU) <a href="https://twitter.com/InterviewAU/status/1161238702586077185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <p>Bishop said she herself often encountered “gender deafness” when she was the only woman in the room.</p> <p>“If I spoke in a room of 20 men, if I would put forward my idea, there was sort of silence,” Bishop said.</p> <p>“It was as if I hadn’t spoken and then somebody would say precisely what I said or come up with precisely the same idea. And then they’d all say, ‘Oh that’s a great idea. Why don’t we do that?’</p> <p>“And I’d say, ‘Excuse … Didn’t I just say that?’”</p> <p>While she initially thought it was an isolated problem, she later found women around the world are facing the same issue.</p> <p>“I just labelled it gender deafness,” she said. “I love men and I think they have a wonderful contribution to make to humanity. But if you’re the only female voice in the room, they just don’t seem to hear you. It’s as if they’re not attuned to it.”</p> <p>Bishop, who was the only woman in Tony Abbott’s 2013 cabinet, said greater female representation would help change the environment.</p> <p>“There must be a critical mass of women, and 50 per cent sounds like a good idea,” she said.</p> <p>“So I would think that the more women that are in politics, the more they would say that behaviour is unacceptable. So I think the numbers really do matter in this instance.”</p> <p>Bishop retired from politics in May. At the end of July, she was announced as the next chancellor of the Australian National University, becoming the<span> </span><a rel="noopener" href="https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/julie-bishops-big-new-job-first-woman-to-hold-the-position/" target="_blank">first woman to hold the position</a>. She has also attracted controversy for<span> </span><a rel="noopener" href="https://www.oversixty.com.au/news/news/im-not-interested-pauline-hanson-tells-georgie-gardner-what-she-really-thinks-about-julie-bishop/" target="_blank">joining the board of international consultancy firm Palladium</a>.</p>

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